Talk:Mackinac Center for Public Policy

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Labor relations writers

This was included under the section on open records requests, but I do not know if it is appropriately placed there.

The following are some of the policy staff that have written articles about Labor Relations:

  • Paul Kersey, Director of Labor Policy [1]
  • Robert Hunter, Senior Fellow in Labor Policy [2]
  • Patrick Wright, Senior Legal Analyst [3]

Edit notes

A lot of the material on the page was unreferenced so I have added tags for where citations are needed. Apart from being unnecessary and untidy the graphics can't be edited by others so I think they are better removed.

I removed "The SPN web site, in a section devoted to forming new conservative think tanks, offers a lobbying handbook" as this is more relevant to the SVN page (but without the graphic).

I'll return to do some more later.--Bob Burton 17:39, 28 July 2008 (EDT)


I used images because I couldn't fathom how to put up charts. But then how someone would actually edit them is beyond me: they are the result of my research and reading stacks of IRS documents. The funder graphic reflects that in the source note.

I'm also having trouble adding the references you ask for, when I add them the way I would with Wikipedia, they don't appear at the end of the article, and clicking on them has no effect. I can source all of this but until I figure out this particular kind of wiki code I'm not going to try to add any others.

greg steimel

Hi Greg, thanks for your note. While I appreciate the images are based on your work there are s couple of problems with using them. Firstly, as many of the foundations are already listed in SourceWatch, using the graphic means that the page doesn't link to other articles unless they duplicate the same information elsewhere here on the page. Secondly, over time both the funding and funders will change and then the page will need to be updated. As a graphic can't be edited, we would then have a mixture of graphic and wiki text or have to change the lot over to wiki text format. SO I think is going to be easier to change the information over to wiki format now.

As for for referencing problem, that should be fixed now. I'd forgotten to add the tag that displays the content of the ref tags. If there are other referencing problems, see Help:References or if you don't find the solution there, drop me a note.

Re tables -- here's an example Capital Research Center financial data Cheers --Bob Burton 07:23, 31 July 2008 (EDT)


I've got a day job so it might take a while for me to add all the references but I will do it. And the tables are much the same. Your example honestly, didn't help much. It showed me a table, which I gotta tell ya, I've seen before. But clicking the Edit link didn't help me learn how to produce one. I gave up long ago when it appeared I'd have to add tags on either side of every entry in the table. There's gotta be an easier way.

Anyway, until I figure out that easier way, I can't replace the graphics. Now back to that day job...

greg steimel

Foundations list

Mackinac Funders 2.JPG


  • 1998
  • 1999
  • 2000
  • 2011
  • 2002
  • 2003
  • 2004
  • 2005
  • 2006 $2,711,545
  • Paul Kersey Bio [ Paul Kersey Bio at, accessed June 2011
  • Robert Hunter bio [ Robert Hunter Bio at accessed June 2011
  • Patrick Wright bio [ Patrick Wright bio page at accessed June 2011