Critical Assessment by Ward Churchill?
The Malkin Award addition is definitely relevant, but I don't see the point in including a lengthy rant against malkin by a single author/political activist, much less beginning the page that way. If Ward Churchill's page on Sourcewatch began with a lengthy (and very opinionated) critique of his works and character, I think many readers would be unlikely to read on. it sets the wrong tone for a reference site.--Will Dooling 15:00, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
reason for rollback
The way Dooling rewrote the article was basically a rehash of Malkin's self-serving website profile. It doesnt contain a pixel of critical info to demonstrate what a pernicious individual she is. The critical comments added are attributed to sources, e.g, Ward Churchill, Geraldo Rivera, and Andrew Sullivan. It is not legitimat to merely ax such commentary without providing rationale or providing a better rewrite or other sources that provide a critical assessment of Malkin. Simply putting a collection of self-serving comments on such an article renders this type of information next to useless.
--Antidotto 17:10, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
I'm not sure your assessment is accurate. This page specifically highlights the worst of Malkin's writing, it's not a rehash of her profile, We're definitely not obscuring the terrible things she's done in the past, and the page can certainly expand to cover more of her articles, perhaps directly quoting some of her stranger accusations (for example, that John Kerry's purple heart was due to self inflicted wounds...I'm going to add a section on that later today). But I'm not sure this page really demands a two paragraph long "Critical Assessment" by a single writer. I feel we should let Malkin's pernicious influence speak for itself. --Will Dooling 17:24, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
Also, I'm not sure it's necessary to have Geraldo Rivera's quote on this page twice. It's a darn good quote (especially coming from Geraldo) but twice on a page that's rather tiny sorta kills the effect, right? - --Will Dooling 17:31, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
reformat prior to posting
There are many errors in the formating of the paragraph and it doesnt make much sense as is:
--Antidotto 17:17, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
==MichelleMalkin.com== Malkin launched MichelleMalkin.com in 2004 <ref> Michelle Malkin: [http://michellemalkin.com/2004/06/08/extreme-makeover/ Extreme Makeover] Michelle Malkin.com, Accessed May 3rd, 2012</ref> which quickly rose to become one of the 100 most popular blog sites on the internet <ref> [http://technorati.com/search?q=michelle&return=sites Technorati top 100] </ref> Malkin's site delivers "analysis of current events and politics" and is often used to attack CNN, MSNBC, and other news sources. Malkin uses this site to attack the entire progressive political spectrum, including organized labor <ref> Michelle Malkin [http://michellemalkin.com/2012/03/12/knock-knock-whos-there-big-labor-at-your-door/ Knock Knock. Who's there? It's big Labor at Your Door </ref> The 'Occupy' Movement <ref> Michelle Malkin: [http://michellemalkin.com/2012/05/01/everything-you-need-to-know-about-occupy-in-one-photo/ Everything You Need to Know about Occupy in One Photo] MichelleMalkin.com, accessed May 3rd, 2012 </ref> and the 2012 movement to recall Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker. <ref> Michelle Malkin [http://michellemalkin.com/2012/04/30/anarchy-101-how-wisconsins-left-embraces-chaos-promo-video/</ref> Malkin has also authored articles in opposition to birthright citizenship <ref>Michelle Malkin: [http://www.jewishworldreview.com/michelle/malkin070403.asp What Makes An American?] Jewish World Review, 4th July, 2003. Accessed May 3rd, 2012 </ref>, and in support of radically reducing immigration from Middle Eastern countries <ref> Michelle Malkin: [http://michellemalkin.com/2011/05/16/why-do-we-still-run-the-diversity-visa-lottery-anyway/ Why Do We Still Run the Diversity Visa Lottery Anyway] Michellemalkin.com, May 16th, 2011. </ref>
- I apologize, I am still fairly new at updating Sourcewatch. Thank you for pointing out my mistakes.--Will Dooling 17:29, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
agree on most
I agree on the duplicate Geraldo quote... maybe ax one of them. I agreed that the entire article needs a basic overhaul, but would like to see that without losing some of the well-referenced commentary by an important voice like Ward Churchill. There are quite a few other critical articles, maybe all of these can be condensed into something more concise... Malkin irks me from time to time, and one of these days I will devote an afternoon to researching some more.
Kind rgds --Antidotto 17:35, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
I think overhauling the page is a worthwhile goal. If you could, please include links to the articles I mentioned, and at least some reference to work that she did commenting on immigration and organized labor in Wisconsin, as well as her recent efforts opposing ALEC protestors. Updates on this page were started because of this sourcewatch page was linked to a PRwatch article on Malkin's rants about anti-ALEC groups, and those articles would be of interest to anyone coming to her Sourcewatch page. ---Will Dooling 18:38, 4 May 2012 (UTC)